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Nintendo Posts First Operating Loss - Because They're Gay
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Nintendo Co Ltd posted a sharp drop in quarterly profit and forecast a bigger-than-expected full-year loss, its first at an operating level, as it battles a strong yen and its games devices lose ground to gadgets such as Apple’s iPhone.
The creator of the Super Mario franchise dominated the video games industry for years with its DS handheld players and Wii home consoles, but is now struggling to keep up as more versatile smartphone and tablet sales boom.
“To say that (the days of consoles) are over is likely an overstatement, but social network and Internet delivered games are growing and structurally changing the future of the industry, which is a strong wind against Nintendo,” said Shigeo Sugawara, senior investment manager at Sompo Japan Nipponkoa Asset Management.
Nintendo now expects an annual operating loss of 45 billion yen ($581 million), dwarfing expectations of a 4.2 billion yen loss, based on the average of 21 analyst forecasts.
“Their time of growth (from consoles) is over, and, while I don’t think the company will cease to exist, if they don’t move into new categories, they will no doubt lose the great scale they’ve amassed,” said Mitsushige Akino, chief fund manager at Ichiyoshi Investment Management in Tokyo.
Nintendo cut its forecast for annual sales of its ageing Wii console to 10 million devices from 12 million, and for the 3DS handheld games device to 14 million from 16 million.
“We had higher expectations for the year-end season, but failed to meet them,” President Satoru Iwata told reporters in Osaka.
Poor sales forced Nintendo to slash the price of its much-anticipated 3DS handheld games device in August, just six months after its launch.
The move halted its record of making profits on games hardware as well as software, a business model that took operating income to a high of 555 billion yen in 2008/09.
Nintendo also faces tougher competition in the home console market from Sony Corp’s Move and Microsoft Corp’s Kinect, and Iwata said consumers were more eager than ever to seek out bargains in the harsh economic environment.
The company plans to launch the Wii’s successor, the Wii U, in Japan, the United States, Europe and Australia in the year-end season, Iwata told reporters.
But with cloud-based gaming emerging as a potential threat, Nintendo may have trouble generating excitement about its new product, some analysts say. Google is taking steps into gaming with Google TV, while Apple is thought to be preparing a new iPad and possibly a smart TV that could be game-changers for the industry.
“We think we need to consider the possibility that home consoles could become a thing of the past,” Citigroup analyst Soichiro Fukuda wrote in a recent report.
“We think the direction taken by marketing trendsetter Apple will be very important and we will be watching the company’s announcements at future events with interest.”
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Nintendo’s profit slumped to 40.9 billion yen for the traditionally strong October-December period, compared with a consensus estimate for 52 billion yen, based on a survey of three analysts by Thomson Reuters.
The results came a day after Apple blew away Wall Street’s expectations with its own quarterly earnings.
Shares in Nintendo have halved to below 11,000 yen since the beginning of the financial year in April, hit by weak 3DS sales and market disappointment with the Wii U next-generation home console, unveiled at the E3 games show in June and set to go on sale late this year. At their peak, in late 2007, the shares traded at 73,200 yen.
Last week, the stock dipped to 10,020 yen, the lowest since April 2004, before either the DS or Wii were launched.
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It wasn't exactly that it was too long--more like, it was long and full of nothing I want to read.
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Truncated: Nintendo is losing money hand over fist with their shitty console, but refuse to give up the ghost and go 3rd party. Only a matter of time.
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Ah, I see. In that case, well, I still dont give a shit.
Youre probably already missing Orion, huh--he was the only guy who could debate this stuff with you.
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Quote from: ScaryLarry on February 04, 2012, 04:44:26 AM
Ah, I see. In that case, well, I still dont give a shit.
Youre probably already missing Orion, huh--he was the only guy who could debate this stuff with you.
I didn`t really post this to spark debate, it was just an interesting article.
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Yes, they are very gay. This was inevitable with the release of the Kinect and PS Move. They're gonna have to step up to big boy games if they wanna survive. Cmon Prison Rape for the WII!!!!
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If (when?) they go 3rd party I'd probably find something to play from their catalogue... maybe Zelda or some shit. But god damn I'm not going to buy one of their shitty consoles to play Mario Kart 36698. Weak.
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Yeah, I sort of miss Nintendo in some respects. I had the original Nintendo, the Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64. There were some great games, such as Zelda, Mario World, Nobunaga's Ambition, Dragon Warrior, Goldeneye, etc.
I switched over to a different brand finally with the PS2, due to the fact that it could play DVDs and CDs as well as videogames, which I thought was incredible at that time (the PS2 was my first DVD player). And of course I wanted to play Grand Theft Auto.
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Quote from: ScaryLarry on February 09, 2012, 02:16:00 AM
Yeah, I sort of miss Nintendo in some respects. I had the original Nintendo, the Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64. There were some great games, such as Zelda, Mario World, Nobunaga's Ambition, Dragon Warrior, Goldeneye, etc.
I switched over to a different brand finally with the PS2, due to the fact that it could play DVDs and CDs as well as videogames, which I thought was incredible at that time (the PS2 was my first DVD player). And of course I wanted to play Grand Theft Auto.
Yeah I think GTA was why we got our PS2 as well. I have a PS3 that I barely turn on. The Xbox is a cruel mistress.
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GTA certainly blew my mind the first time I played it at my friend's house. I was like, what, I can actually just do whatever the fuck I want to do? Then when they told me the PS2 acts as a CD and DVD player, that was it--bye bye Nintendo.
I eventually got around to actually accomplishing the missions, but I spent much more time stealing cars, shooting cops, ripping off hookers, engaging in high-speed police chases and beating up random civilians. It was great.
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Quote from: ScaryLarry on February 11, 2012, 11:27:04 PM
GTA certainly blew my mind the first time I played it at my friend's house. I was like, what, I can actually just do whatever the fuck I want to do? Then when they told me the PS2 acts as a CD and DVD player, that was it--bye bye Nintendo.
I eventually got around to actually accomplishing the missions, but I spent much more time stealing cars, shooting cops, ripping off hookers, engaging in high-speed police chases and beating up random civilians. It was great.
Agreed. It seemed like such a shift for video games for sure. It was like when I first played Oblivion. I was totally overwhelmed by the options of quests. Then before I knew it I'd spent 3 hours picking flowers to make potions. LOL.
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Quote from: H.P. Mayfield on February 12, 2012, 04:58:03 PM
Agreed. It seemed like such a shift for video games for sure. It was like when I first played Oblivion. I was totally overwhelmed by the options of quests. Then before I knew it I'd spent 3 hours picking flowers to make potions. LOL.
I totally did that too. Actually Red Dead Redemption was sort of the same in that I spent literally hours picking plants and hunting critters. "Ooh I saw a skunk! Fuck yes! BLAM" Awesome shit.
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You know the first video game I realized that I could just wander around doing nothing was E.T. for the Atari system.
Actually, I think whenever you went anywhere, some cowboy dude would come grab you and take you back where you started every time. Come to think of it, that was the whole fucking game.
Man, that game sucked.
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